Creative Status: Deconstruct ego, integrate the shadow, manifest real life. - Page 2

Creative Status is a podcast about using your creativity to grow towards wholeness so you can live a REAL life.

In general, this involves a three-step process:

1) Deconstructing the EGO - looking at how your fragmented beliefs hold you back from yourself and life and how your conditioned sense of identity might keep you in this state.

2) Facing and Integrating the SHADOW - exploring how the creative process allow you to move towards self-acceptance and owning the hidden/disowned parts of yourself.

3) Manifesting a REAL LIFE - moving towards your greatest vision for your life.

 

Awareness and the Journey from Fragmentation to Wholeness (Creative Status: Episode 90)

Creative Status is a podcast about using creativity as a vehicle for improving your life by deconstructing ego, integrating the shadow self, and designing and manifesting a real life.

Every episode explores how the creative process can help you GROW REAL by moving towards wholeness in yourself by making the unconscious conscious.

In this episode, Oli Anderson takes a deep dive into the concept of awareness, the first step in the journey from fragmentation to wholeness.

Oli introduces the new format of solo episodes, breaking down the essential building blocks of realness and offering practical insights for personal transformation.

The Importance of Awareness: Oli explores how awareness is the foundation of any transformational journey. Discover how becoming aware of the ways we hold ourselves back and the filters we use to perceive life can lead to profound personal growth.

Understand the journey from childhood wholeness to adult fragmentation and how societal conditioning and self-imposed limitations create a false identity driven by shame.

From Fragmentation to Wholeness: Learn about the natural drive towards wholeness and how challenging yourself daily can help you break free from the comfortable familiarity of old patterns.

Discover practical steps to raise awareness, such as engaging in activities that get you out of your head and into your body, like yoga, running, or journaling.

Creative Status: Awakening to Wholeness

Join us as we explore the first step in the journey towards realness and personal transformation.

This episode is a call to raise awareness, challenge yourself, and begin the journey from fragmentation to wholeness.

Stay real out there,

Oli Anderson

(www.olianderson.co.uk)

*A quote was attributed to Ralph Waldo Emerson when it should have been Henry David Thoreau (I always do that with this quote for some reason – Oli!)

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Finding Wholeness Amidst Spiritual Bullsh*ttery (Creative Status: Episode 89: Cristina Bonnet)

Creative Status is a podcast about using creativity as a vehicle for improving your life by deconstructing ego, integrating the shadow self, and designing and manifesting a real life.

Every episode explores how the creative process can help you GROW REAL by moving towards wholeness in yourself by making the unconscious conscious.

In this episode, we dive into the murky waters of online spirituality and self-help with holistic coach Cristina Bonnet.

Cristina brings the energy to discuss the pitfalls of ego-driven spiritual practices and the importance of maintaining authenticity in our journey towards wholeness.

The Problem with Ego-Driven Spirituality: Delve into the ways in which the ego can hijack spiritual practices, turning them into a means of self-aggrandizement rather than genuine growth.

Discover how marketing gimmicks and societal pressures can lead us astray from true spiritual development.

The Importance of Humility and Trust: Explore the concept of humility as a cornerstone of true spiritual practice. Learn how accepting our limitations and trusting in the unfolding of life can lead to deeper, more authentic experiences.

Three Pillars of Trust: Christina introduces three key pillars that can help us cultivate trust and humility in our spiritual journeys: understand how these elements can support us in moving towards wholeness and realness.

Creative Status: Navigating Spiritual Bullsh*ttery

Join us as we unpack the complexities of modern spirituality and self-help, offering insights and practical advice on how to stay REAL on your path.

This episode is a call to embrace simplicity, REALNESS, and the natural unfolding of life.

Stay real out there,

Oli

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Cristina’s website: ⁠https://www.cristinabonnet.com/⁠

Cristina on Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/the.integral.coach/⁠

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Reclaiming Your Wildness & True Nature (Creative Status: Episode 88: Elizabeth Dialto)

Creative Status is a podcast about using creativity as a vehicle for improving your life by deconstructing ego, integrating the shadow self, and designing and manifesting a real life.

Every episode explores how the creative process can help you GROW REAL by moving towards wholeness in yourself by making the unconscious conscious.

In this episode, we delve into the world of wildness and untaming with Elizabeth Dialto, an embodiment specialist and founder of the School of Sacred Embodiment.

Discover how embracing your true nature and breaking free from societal conditioning can lead to a more authentic and fulfilling life.

Reclaiming Your Wildness: Elizabeth shares her insights on what it means to be wild, debunking common misconceptions and highlighting how true wildness is about honouring your authentic self.

Learn how to reconnect with your true nature and make choices that align with your deepest truths.

The Wild Soul Liberation Framework: We explore Elizabeth’s eight-pillar framework for healing and self-discovery, including surrender, release, trust, receptivity, wild dreaming, desire, love, and truth.

Understand how each pillar can help you peel back layers of conditioning and move towards a more genuine relationship with yourself and life.

Practical Steps to Embodiment: Elizabeth discusses the importance of listening to your body’s unique language and how movement practices can help you reconnect with your instincts and intuition.

Discover simple yet powerful techniques to enhance your self-awareness and trust in your body’s wisdom.

Creative Status: Embracing Your True Nature

Join us as we explore the journey towards wildness, authenticity, and self-love.

This episode is a call to break free from societal norms and embrace the real you, living a life that is true to your deepest values and desires.

Stay real out there,

Oli Anderson

(www.olianderson.co.uk)

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Elizabeth on Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/elizabethdialto⁠

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The Journey to Self-Acceptance & Inner Harmony (Creative Status: Episode 87: Jennifer Norman)

Creative Status is a podcast about using creativity as a vehicle for improving your life by deconstructing ego, integrating the shadow self, and designing and manifesting a real life.

Every episode explores how the creative process can help you GROW REAL by moving towards wholeness in yourself by making the unconscious conscious.

In this episode, we dive deep into the realms of self-acceptance and inner beauty with Jennifer Norman, founder of the Human Beauty Movement.

We explore the profound journey towards loving oneself, embracing authenticity, and the transformative power of inner beauty.

From External Validation to Inner Acceptance: Jennifer discusses the societal obsession with external beauty and how it often leads to a disconnect from our true selves.

Discover how shifting the focus from seeking external approval to embracing inner beauty can lead to a more fulfilling and authentic life.

Breaking Down Barriers: We delve into the importance of breaking down generational and societal barriers that prevent us from being our authentic selves. Learn how embracing vulnerability and authenticity can foster deeper connections with ourselves and others.

The Role of Creativity in Healing: Jennifer shares her insights on how creativity can serve as a powerful tool for self-expression and healing.

Understand the distinction between creating for external validation and creating for personal growth and catharsis.

Creative Status: Embracing Inner Beauty

Join us as we explore the journey towards self-love, acceptance, and the authentic expression of inner beauty.

This episode is a call to reconnect with your true self and to live a life that is aligned with your deepest values and intentions.

Stay real out there,

Oli

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Jennifer’s website: ⁠https://www.thehumanbeautymovement.com⁠

Humanist Beauty: ⁠https://www.humanistbeauty.com/⁠

Super Captain Brave Man: ⁠https://www.supercaptainbraveman.com⁠

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Rewriting Your Inner Story for Realness (Creative Status: Episode 86: Dave Robinson)

Creative Status is a podcast about using creativity as a vehicle for improving your life by deconstructing ego, integrating the shadow self, and designing and manifesting a real life.

Every episode explores how the creative process can help you GROW REAL by moving towards wholeness in yourself by making the unconscious conscious.

In this episode, we delve into the transformative power of storywork with Dave Robinson, a holistic mental health and mindset coach.

Discover how the narratives we tell ourselves shape our realities and learn practical techniques to rewrite these stories for a more empowered life.

The Power of Language: Dave shares his expertise in story work, highlighting the profound impact of language on our self-perception and life outcomes. Learn how simple shifts in the words we use can transform our internal and external realities.

From Limitation to Possibility: Explore the categories of speech that create internal conflict, such as negations and absolutes, and discover how to translate these into language that fosters growth and possibility.

Healing Through Story: Dave dives into the process of identifying and rewriting the stories that hold us back, using personal anecdotes and client examples to illustrate the power of this work.

Understand how acknowledging and reframing past narratives can lead to profound healing and personal growth.

Creative Status: Rewriting Your Narrative

Join us as we explore the art of storywork and its potential to transform your relationship with yourself and your life.

This episode is a call to examine the stories you tell yourself and to choose narratives that support your journey towards wholeness and realness.

Stay real out there,

Oli

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Episode Links:

Dave’s Website: ⁠https://www.workyourstories.com/⁠

Dave on Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/daverobinson.coach⁠

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Embracing Yin Energy in a Yang World (Creative Status: Episode 85: Vera Thomlison)

Creative Status is a podcast about using creativity as a vehicle for improving your life by deconstructing ego, integrating the shadow self, and designing and manifesting a real life.

Every episode explores how the creative process can help you GROW REAL by moving towards wholeness in yourself by making the unconscious conscious.

In this episode, we dive into the tranquil world of Yin Yoga with Vera Thomlison, a dedicated Yin Yoga teacher and life coach.

We explore the profound philosophy behind Yin Yoga and how it can serve as a gateway to deeper self-awareness and inner peace.

The Yin and Yang Balance: We dive into the fundamental differences between Yin and Yang energies, emphasizing how Yin Yoga provides a counterbalance to the often high-energy, action-oriented lifestyle many of us lead.

Discover how the stillness of Yin Yoga can help you find strength in slowness and surrender.

Returning to the Root: Drawing on wisdom from the Tao Te Ching, we delve into how Yin Yoga helps us return to our roots, fostering a deeper connection with our true selves.

Learn how this practice can guide you back to what is real and essential in life, helping you stay grounded and present.

Trusting Life: Vera shares her personal journey of embracing stillness and learning to trust life – a powerful testimony to the transformative power of letting go and how trusting the natural flow of life can lead to unexpected yet fulfilling outcomes.

Creative Status: Embracing Stillness

Join us as we explore how the principles of Yin Yoga can be applied both on and off the mat, helping you navigate life with greater ease and authenticity.

This episode is a call to slow down, breathe, and reconnect with the REAL essence of who you are.

Stay real out there,

Oli

Episode Links:

Vera’s Website: ⁠http://www.stillyoga.ca⁠

Vera on Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/stillyogavera/⁠

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Addiction, Shame, & Spiritual Suicide (Creative Status: Episode 84: Eric Fisher)

Creative Status is a podcast about using creativity as a vehicle for improving your life by deconstructing ego, integrating the shadow self, and designing and manifesting a real life.

Every episode explores how the creative process can help you GROW REAL by moving towards wholeness in yourself by making the unconscious conscious.

In this episode, we delve into the realms of addiction, trauma, and spirituality with Eric Fisher, a recovery counselor and addiction specialist.

Together, we unpack the complex tapestry of the human psyche and the pervasive nature of addiction in our lives.

The Illusion of the Void: Eric Fisher sheds light on the ‘void’ that drives the addictive itch, exploring the origins of addiction and how it reflects the underlying relationship we have with ourselves.

Fragmentation to Wholeness: We discuss the fragmentation that occurs during childhood and how it leads to the formation of a ‘false self’—a facade that we cling to, often resulting in ‘spiritual suicide’.

Letting Go to Grow: Eric provides actionable insights on how to let go of the ego, embrace our true selves, and heal from the spiritual suicide that keeps us trapped in cycles of addiction and self-deception.

Creative Status: Embracing Realness

Join us as we explore the journey from disconnection to wholeness, the grieving process of letting go, and the cultivation of qualities like curiosity, honesty, and gratitude that guide us back to our authentic being.

It’s a conversation that not only enlightens but also offers a path to liberation from the chains of our addictions.

Stay real out there,

Oli

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Episode Links:

Eric’s Website: ⁠https://www.recoveryartscounselling.com/⁠

Eric’s Author Page on Amazon (check out his book ‘The Martial Art of Recovery’: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/stores/Eric-Fisher/author/B0D47V56CD⁠

Eric on Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/recoveryartscounseling/⁠

Eric on Facebook: ⁠ https://www.facebook.com/recoveryartscounselling⁠

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Cultivating Realness in Life’s Garden (Creative Status: Episode 83: Kareen Erbe)

Creative Status is a podcast about using creativity as a vehicle for improving your life by deconstructing ego, integrating the shadow self, and designing and manifesting a real life.

Every episode explores how the creative process can help you GROW REAL by moving towards wholeness in yourself by making the unconscious conscious.

Join us for this episode of Creative Status as we dig into the fertile soil of garden design with Kareen Erbe, a permaculture expert and educator. Discover the profound parallels between tending to the earth and nurturing the human spirit.

The Garden of Life: Kareen guides us through the symbiotic relationship between gardening and personal growth. Learn how creating and maintaining a garden mirrors the cultivation of our inner landscapes.

Harvesting Wisdom: From the principles of permaculture, we glean insights on sustainable living, the richness of participating in natural cycles, and the abundance that comes from aligning with the rhythms of the earth.

Seasons of the Soul: As we discuss the ebb and flow of growth and dormancy in gardens, we uncover the lessons of acceptance, the importance of presence, and the natural progression of life’s seasons within ourselves.

Roots of Reality: Kareen shares how the act of gardening can ground us in the realities of nature, teaching us about interdependence, the beauty of decay as part of the life cycle, and the humble acceptance of our place in the larger ecosystem.

Creative Status: Cultivating Realness

Be inspired by Kareen’s deep connection to the earth and the wisdom she imparts on living a life in harmony with the world around us. It’s a conversation that plants seeds of transformation and invites you to nurture your own garden—both literal and metaphorical.

Stay real out there,

Oli

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The New Age Deception & Spiritual Narcissism (Creative Status: Episode 82: Melany Oliver)

Creative Status is a podcast about using creativity as a vehicle for improving your life by deconstructing ego, integrating the shadow self, and designing and manifesting a real life.

Every episode explores how the creative process can help you GROW REAL by moving towards wholeness in yourself by making the unconscious conscious.

In this episode of Creative Status, join us as we unravel the deceptions of spiritual narcissism with Melany Oliver, an intuitive soul coach who has navigated the murky waters of misleading online spirituality to find her way back to authentic healing.

Truth vs. Illusion: Melany shares her transformative journey from being ensnared by the allure of ‘quick-fix’ spiritual modalities to discovering the liberating power of truth and emotional processing. We delve into why so much online spirituality is a trap, keeping seekers from the very growth they desire.

The Heart of Healing: Learn how sincerity, humility, and a genuine desire for truth are the cornerstones of real healing. Melany discusses how embracing our shadow self and processing our emotions can lead to a more authentic, joyful existence.

Emotions as a Pathway: Explore the crucial distinction between living in your emotions and processing through them with truth as your guide. Melany’s insights reveal how we can avoid getting stuck and instead use our feelings as a catalyst for personal transformation.

Creative Status: Where Real Healing Begins

Be inspired by Melany’s candid conversation about the simplicity of healing, the pitfalls of spiritual ego, and the profound relief that comes from aligning with our true selves. It’s a dialogue that challenges the status quo and invites you to look inward with courage and honesty.

Stay real out there,

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The New Age Deception & Spiritual Narcissism (Show Transcript)

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Oli Anderson: Oh, hi there. Oli Anderson here. You’re listening to Creative Status. This is a podcast about growing more real, creating lives for ourselves that are, aligned with who we truly are when we clear away some of the mental garbage that holds us back from ourselves, holds us back from other people, and holds us back from life. The creative process is a big part of that, because the creative process can make the unconscious conscious.

Today’s interview is one of my favourite ones so far. Definitely. It’s with Melany Oliver. Melany is an intuitive soul coach. I originally stumbled across her work on Instagram. I found a post where she was talking about two different approaches to spirituality. She was sharing her own story and showing ultimately, how years ago, whenever it was, she had kind of fallen into the trap of being deceived by a lot of the spiritual bullshit that’s online.

This is something that I’ve thought about, like, a lot, because obviously, a lot of the things I talk about can be classed as spiritual because we’re dealing with uncovering the truth, contemplating the truth, and then living and breathing the truth. But there’s a lot of stuff out there that really holds people slaves to themselves and slaves to their egos, because it encourages them to run away from the truth rather than towards it. And it dresses itself up as spirituality. It’s a very deceptive kind of thing.

A lot of it has to do with marketing and all that kind of stuff. And, it was just so refreshing to see Melany’s approach to this on her own Instagram. So I reached out to her, I explained that I wanted to talk about all that. And, that’s what this interview ultimately is.

We’re diving into why so much of that stuff is deceptive and how there’s maybe a healthier approach to kind of being spiritual, if you want to even use that word, to just basically moving towards the truth and uncovering the truth without any of the mumbo jumbo, none of the nonsense, none of the marketing gimmicks and all that kind of thing.

So this was a really great conversation. It was so powerful that we set off some dogs barking. I’ve managed to remove most of that from the, background noise, but it’s kind of cool, actually, to hear these dogs going crazy. And just so you can tell that we really annoyed the satanic forces of the world or, something like that. Little bit dramatic.

But anyway, here’s the interview. Melany, thanks so much for being so chill about everything and for sharing all this stuff. Hope this helps. Anyone who’s listening might piss off a few people, so apologies in advance, but, you know, it’s all part of the learning process. Here we go. Thanks a lot. Boom.

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Oli Anderson: Oh, hi there, Melany. Thank you so much for joining me on today’s episode of Creative Status. I’m actually very excited about this one because, we had a conversation like, a week or two ago where we, started to unpack some patterns that we both noticed around some of this spiritual, bullshit pardon my French that seems, to be taking over the world, especially online. So we’re going to unpack that even more before we get into it. Do you feel like introducing yourself, telling people what you do and what you’re all about, and also you want to get out of this conversation that we’re about to have?

Melany Oliver: Sure. Yeah. Hi, Oli, and thank you so much for inviting me on. I’m excited about this conversation. I think I told you before, like, I used to rant about this all the time online and got a lot of stick for it. So it’s nice to meet someone who can see, you know, as well, and, have this discussion, because I think, like you said, it’s super important. Well, obviously, we’re going to get into it. But, yeah, I’m Melany. I’m a holistic therapist and emotional, healing coach. I’ve been doing this for about, well, 18 years now. Yeah. And I’m excited to share this conversation, with you and to share this with the world.

Oli Anderson: Yeah. And see what we can learn and where we end up. So let’s start right at the beginning. The reason that I reached out to you is I found you on Instagram somehow, and there was a post that you’d put on there where you were basically doing a sort of, before and after comparing contrast of a kind of old way that you’d kind of used, as a kind of philosophy for, like, thinking about life and healing the things that you’ve been through versus a new way.

And I suppose if I was going to give the abridged version of what that was, it was almost as though the old version, which didn’t actually help you get anywhere, was that, you’d fallen for some of this kind of new age deception, let’s call it the new version, was that you’d kind of tuned into something quite different. So maybe that’s a good starting point, just kind of saying where you were and where you’ve ended up. And I can hear that the hounds of hell are trying to attack you.

Melany Oliver: Yeah. I’m so sorry. About that. That’s Mexico. Yeah.

Oli Anderson: Yeah, so if we do the compare and contrast, like where were you, where did you end up and how did you learn to kind of break through the deception, I guess.

Melany Oliver: Okay, so, I guess it started throughout my childhood because, I’m half Brazilian and half English. And in Brazil, I’m not sure if you know anything about the culture there, but at least in Bahia, they’re very much into the occult.

You know, there’s, I remember doing all these rituals, you know, my grandmother used to take me to see witch doctors and they would give you like what they call bayous. and then you’ll go buy certain plants and herbs and you’ll light a candle at a certain time, you know, for the saint and then have a bath and yeah, basically it’s a little ritual, you know, and say incantations and what have you and prayers.

So it started off throughout my childhood and to me that was natural, right. And my aunts used to take me to these spiritual centres there where you’d go get your energy cleansed and speak to medium, ah, doctors.

And so that was really ingrained in me from childhood. So, when I started my healing journey when I was around 14, in my mind that was healing, right? So that’s kind of what led me down, the new age sort of path because I didn’t think to go to see a psychologist, for example. I thought I need energy healing or I need to see the spirit doctor or the witch doctor. And I guess that’s what started me on the new age path. I’m not sure if you heard me say like, I ended up more lost than when I started. And after ten years of being on the search and doing everything like you name it, I’ve probably done it and trained in it.

Reiki, hypnotherapy, theta healing, conscious access, consciousness, violet flame, God knows what, quantum touch matrix, energetics, like you name it, I’ve done it. And what I felt was that there was always something missing from all these, modalities and also I didn’t heal, I wasn’t healing and when I say healing, my search was really I just wanted to heal from depression.

I was depressed and I had severe, suicidal ideation and that’s all I wanted. I just wanted to live depression free and not have the suicidal ideation. That’s what led me on my search. But then I would do these energy healings or courses and whatever. And then two, three months later, I was depressed again with severe suicidal ideation.

And I could not understand why I’ve invested so much of my time, energy and money. I was meditating, saying my affirmations and doing my sage. And so when I talk about this stuff, like when I make fun of it now, like it’s coming from experience, it’s not, you know, as a judgement, I did it, you know, and I know how lost I was in that field. And my transition, came out of desperation, actually.

 And, I remember just being… just breaking down one day and really praying from my heart and I was so desperate and I just prayed to God and I said, you know, help me. Like, I really, sincerely, all I wanted was to heal and I just wanted the truth. That’s all I wanted. And it was that one desire that I had that set everything in motion and that kind of changed, my course in terms of the, of spirituality or healing.

Oli Anderson: I, ah, should say that’s amazing. So as you were going through that story of like how you, you know, you, you kept looking in one place and then maybe you get a bit of a release, but then eventually the effect would wear off. You go look in another place and you’re just caught up in the cycle of constant distractions and, nothing ever changed.

My question for you was going to be what was the missing ingredient? And then right there at the end of the story, just shared, you basically summed it all up like the missing ingredient was the truth. Like it basically boils down to that.

The way that I understand all of this now, based on my own experience and just working with people in my coaching practise, is when people feel that they need healing or that they’re dealing with some kind of an existential void or that restless itch that they just don’t know how to scratch is because they’ve become disconnected from themselves. And, the only reason that they’re disconnected from themselves is because for some m reason, normally, because what happened in childhood, they’ve become disconnected from the truth.

They’ve, they’ve created a version of themselves, an ego that needs to resist the truth in order to maintain its hold over them so that they can keep the shadow self at bay. Maybe we’ll get into that. But also along with the resistance, they end up distorting the truth like they don’t want to see it. Because if they do see the truth, then even though they’re in pain and they’ve got this itch that needs scratching they’re going to have to make all kinds of changes in their life. And the biggest change, which is the one most people don’t want to make, is that they’re going to have to let go of the current identity that they’ve got and create a new one. And ultimately that’s what you just shed. Like all of these practises that you were, kind of trying to heal yourself with. They weren’t taking you towards the truth, they were kind of taking you away from the truth.

Melany Oliver: Yes, you’ve just nailed it. And not even that. yeah, I was basically in denial about. I mean, I’ll say I was in emotional denial because intellectually I was aware of the child abuse and everything that I went through, but I. But emotionally I did not accept it. And I was still engaging with, you know, my abusive mother, which was obviously not healthy for me.

And because of the, conditioning – like, we are conditioned to accept abuse because they are our parents. You know, they have given everything for us to survive. My mother cooked for me every day and I went to good schools. My father was a good provider. How dare I point the finger? Like, what an ungrateful daughter I am, you know, how dare I point the finger at the abuse? And so that was kind of like capping my emotional acceptance. I don’t know if that makes sense.

Oli Anderson: It makes perfect sense. So, actually, the reason that the truth is so, powerful and healing, it’s because exactly what you just said, it leads to acceptance. Acceptance is ultimately what we’re all looking for, so that itch that can’t be scratched. It’s really just a lack of acceptance. And the way to get that is to find the truth or to find reality.

Because the only thing you can accept is the truth reality. And if you accept the reality of life, then you have to accept the reality of yourself. And maybe this is kind of going to open this up a little bit more because it comes down ultimately to something that we talked about in our last conversation that we didn’t record. The hounds of hell are getting nervous again. And, basically what that is is humility.

Like, ultimately, the only way that we can heal, I have found, at least in my own life, is to learn humility. When we don’t have humility, we end up because of that emotional denial that you were talking about, trying to control everything. This is the tragedy of these people that are kind of lost with some of these spiritual deceptions. They’re in emotional pain, which is why they’re in denial in the first place, because they don’t want to ride out the short term discomfort of returning back to acceptance.

But that denial causes them to try and control life no matter what. And all I mean by that is that they try and control things so that life doesn’t ask them to face the emotional pain that they need in order to set themselves free. And so they go in all these wild goose chases and they do all these kind of courses and things that you’re talking about, or they invest money in people that have basically got the same emotional denial, the same emotional problems. And it becomes a case of the blind leading the blind.

And there’s just all these people upholding this illusion that you can avoid your emotional pain forever and heal yourself. But actually the only way out is through, as the saying says. And, basically it sounds like that’s what you did. So when you did finally realise that the only thing that was going to help you was the truth, that allowed you to kind of face the abuse that you went through when you were younger, that allowed you to face how that had caused you to become fragmented in yourself. And it probably allowed the shadow itself to re-emerge. And it ultimately put you on the path towards wholeness. That’s what I’m assuming.

Melany Oliver: Yeah, 1000%.

Oli Anderson: Yeah.

Melany Oliver: So, and then when you say emotional, like, when you say acceptance and emotional pain, and, you know, the only way out is through, that is actually how you accept truth.

Oli Anderson: Yes.

Melany Oliver: You know, when I was talking about, I was in it, I had an intellectual awareness that my mother was abusive. But I. But emotionally I didn’t accept it. Which means that I didn’t process the hurt that she caused me throughout my childhood. And that’s, the way to accept the truth emotionally is to process your emotional wounds, which I talk about all the time. and that’s painful and it does hurt. But one thing that I noticed throughout my emotional processing is that it only hurts when you resist it. Because when you actually accept it emotionally, it’s such a relief. You feel so good when you feel emotions and you accept it and you release it. Yes, of course it’s sad. And it broke my heart.

You know, it would break any child’s heart to have the realisation emotionally that your mother doesn’t love you or your father doesn’t love you. Of course you’re gonna grieve. I grieved for a good two, maybe three months, you know, and that’s what it takes, that’s what it took to really accept that fact. Yeah.

Oli Anderson: Yeah, well, I think the choices are we either stay in emotional denial, which sucks in the long term, or we face the emotions, which sucks, but not for quite as long. And then on the other. On the other side of it, we get freedom because we finally become whole again. And I think the good news, if you want to call it good news, because it kind of is, is that, once you do put yourself in that process of accepting the emotional pain and letting it kind of pass, you’re working with life.

Because life is always calling us back towards more wholeness, and it’s a natural process. And so, in a way, you can’t lose the battle. You just have to trust that process and go with it. Because, like you said, the only thing that really screws you up is the resistance of those emotions. It’s like the Carl Jung thing. Carl Jung said, what you resist persists.

Melany Oliver: Yeah, exactly.

Oli Anderson: And so by resisting it, you just exacerbate it. You make it worse, especially if you’re going on all these wild goose chases and you think you’re doing something, but you’re actually resisting it at an unconscious level. And so, is there something there? Because I think part of this transition from going from running away from the truth, but thinking that we’re running towards the truth to running towards the actual truth and freeing ourselves because we’re moving with life instead of against it, is our unconscious drives.

Because I think in your case, it sounds like what happened when you reach that crunch point where you had to get down and, like, pray for help. That was the point where the. The ego version of yourself, let’s say, ran out of steam. You took it as far as it could go, which is what a breakdown is, right? Like, you took it as far as you could go. It didn’t work. And so you’re like, “Oh, shit, right. I’m gonna pray to God”.

And then by doing that, you actually aligned the unconscious intentions with the conscious intentions, and then you could put yourself in a path. And so my question for you is, how do you see the role of the unconscious in this? Because the way that I look at it is all these people in emotional denial, they’ve basically been driven by their unconscious to eat.

Melany Oliver: Yeah, and that’s tricky, isn’t it? It’s so tricky. And, it comes back to what you said before. It’s two things. One is humility, and two is a sincere desire for truth. Because most people, they don’t want the truth. They want the results, or they don’t want the truth. They want something else other than the truth. And then when you share the truth with them, they will either get triggered or get angry or attack you or, and that is an indication that actually they’re not sincere.

They don’t want the truth. They want their ego stroked. They want an illusion. But yeah, it comes down to that. So you can still be deeply wounded. and to save you years of time and money and going around in circles, if you can just develop sincerity for truth, a passionate desire for truth and, and humility, that’s gonna, that will help you to bypass your unconscious, your unconscious beliefs and your wounds that are keeping you trapped in this, in these negative patterns.

Oli Anderson: Yeah. Do you think, we can reverse engineer our relationship with the truth by the results that we’re getting? I don’t know if that’s too vague, but basically what I’ve learned from myself and coaching people is the unconscious is always the main driving force. And if our lives are like, really fragmented and we’re constantly hitting brick walls and we’re constantly saying that we want to make changes in our lives, but then things never do change, then it means at some level that the, there’s a wide gap between the conscious and unconscious mind.

Melany Oliver: Yes.

Oli Anderson: And if we can start to understand little things like that, that’s when we can maybe wake up and say, okay, like I’m telling myself one thing, but there’s something going on inside me where, you know, I’m sabotaging myself or I’m just attracting totally different scenarios and situations because there is a block. And I suppose the question is how. How do we learn to listen to ourselves and listen to life so that we can start to really, get into that flow of moving with the truth instead of against it, even if we.

Melany Oliver: Yeah, right. Yeah. And the way I see it is, you know, and I’m talking about your immediate law of attraction because obviously we have a collective one as well. But your immediate law of attraction is showing you what’s still unhealed inside of you. You know, that’s it. And if we can see it that way and get curious about it instead of, you know, trying to force things, which doesn’t work, you know, and, yeah, see that as an opportunity.

Okay, this, I’m stuck in this pattern. Let’s dive in. Like, let’s do some inner work. why am I stuck in this pattern? And the key for me is emotions. You know, like, what is this? What, what do I feel when this pattern shows up? And then, and then from there, from the emotions that come up, you can start to process the emotions, navigate, you know, the emotional layers and see if, if that’s an addiction or, you know, an emotional addiction or, you know, a wound, and then obviously do your inner work.

Oli Anderson: Yeah, there’s a saying I often throw out. And, like I say, often is probably too often. But basically it’s the idea that the truth will set you free. Like Jesus said. Okay, that’s, that’s great, but, first it will piss you off and it will make you miserable. The reason it will piss you off and make you miserable is because ultimately the truth. I don’t think the truth ever makes anybody feel bad. I think the truth makes us feel good.

That’s why, as far as I understand it, spirituality really is just that, a journey to uncover the truth and then to live the truth. That’s all it really is. And anything other than that is going to cause problems in our lives. But the reason we think that the truth hurts, as the old saying goes, is because it causes us to have to let go of the illusions and let go of the belief systems and let go of the identities, basically let go of all kinds of things that are stopping us from healing, but that we’ve identified with and that we think are, the solution to our problems. And so I guess it keeps coming back to the same thing, which is this relationship with the truth. How. How do we, like, know if we are seeking the truth or if we’re on one of these wild goose chases?

Melany Oliver: I guess, firstly, Oli, I’m loving everything that you’re saying. I’m so resonating with everything. And I agree with you. The truth does set us free. And, it feels good, but what feels bad is the lie that we’re confronted with. That’s what hurts.

Oli Anderson: Yeah.

Melany Oliver: You know, if you had an illusion, like I was talking about, my mother wound that mummy loves me, but then you realise, actually she doesn’t. Of course that’s going to hurt. And it’s the lie that hurts that you’re releasing, not the truth. Because once you accept the truth, you feel good, you feel peace, you feel a relief.

And it’s like, like you said, it’s freeing. yeah, sorry, going back to what you’re saying, yeah, it is a relationship with the truth. And that’s why we have to want to know the truth and we have to desire truth, and live our truth. I think that’s where true happiness and joy comes from. And that’s what we’re all seeking to be our true selves in the world. In a world where that is constantly trying to, make us not be our true selves and to be something else.

Oli Anderson: How does the humility thing feed into the true self thing? Because this is another kind of avenue that’s maybe worth opening up, because I think a lot of this spiritual deception stuff is aimed at people who have a lot of inner fragmentation. When people have that inner fragmentation, it just means they become disconnected from their true selves. Okay?

And when that happens, they become driven by shame. Like, they’re not driven by truth anymore because they disconnect. It’s the shame that drives them. And when they’re driven by shame, they feel like they’re not good enough. They feel like they can’t trust themselves. They feel like they can’t trust life. And normally what happens is they go to one of two extremities.

They either become total control freaks, where they feel like they have to be a big hero to compensate for the shame that they feel. So they act like, you know, they just. It’s all hustler, it’s all grinder. They’re totally omnipotent, basically, and totally in control of life. Or they go to the other extreme, which is where they end up playing the victim, and they basically roll over. And any problem that happens is, like, the worst thing that’s ever happened. Nobody else has ever experienced it in human history. Any emotional thing that arises is going to be like a big roadblock.

Melany Oliver: That’s a disaster.

Oli Anderson: And, yeah, all this kind of stuff. So they go to one extreme or the other. But I think the middle path, so to speak, is humility, where we realise, okay, that in truth, we’re not a big hero because we can’t control everything. So there’s, you know, do your best and forget the rest.

Like, we still got to take action and, like, go out there. Yeah, make a dent in the world, but, like, we can’t control everything, so there’s no point taking that approach. And we’re not a big victim either, because we always have the power to make choices. We always have the power to kind of figure out our next move or to just patient until something changes, whatever it is. And so humility, for me is just getting to that point where we’re like, okay, I’m an amazing, powerful creature, but I can’t control everything.

I’m going to screw up sometimes, but it’s not the end of the world, and I’m not going to just trust myself and try and force everything through my own interpretations because of my shame driven relationship with myself, I’m going to actually know when to let go and trust life. And so humility basically puts us back in alignment with our nature, which again, puts us back on track to reality and truth and acceptance. And so there’s something there just around how we’re basically designed to be humble.

Ultimately, there’s a quote by Mike Tyson that I love. I might have said it to you last time. Mike Tyson said, “Man wasn’t made to be humble, but to be humbled”. And I love how he said that. It’s like we go out there, m and we got this idea about, right, I’m gonna go out and just smash life and, get attacked by the hounds of hell.

Ultimately, I’m gonna become humbled, which means I’m gonna find my true self through that process of, I suppose, setting audacious goals, whatever, but then finding out the truth about myself. So, anyway, that was a long ramble about that. But how does humility come into, I guess, your journey and the lessons that you’ve learned by not deceiving yourself anymore?

Melany Oliver: Yeah, firstly, I have no idea why they are like this today. I don’t know why. they’re not normally like this wild.

Oli Anderson: But anyway, although we’ve opened these.

Melany Oliver: Funny. Yeah. so, yeah, humility is everything. And humility, firstly, it’s about accepting reality. That’s like it in a nutshell. And, ah, when you accept reality, you also have to accept and process your emotions. Right. So it’s about, feeling everything as it is, not resisting it. yeah, so I think that’s a big part of it. And life, as they say, humbles you. Right.

If you’re trying to force things and trying to do things and it’s not working, you can continue to force it until you have an emotional breakdown, until something happens to make you really face yourself and realise that, yeah, what I’m doing is not working. I’m not being humble here. You know, I’m not being honest with myself right now. I’m forcing things. I’m going against reality, like you said, rather than seeing this as feedback and saying, actually, you know, maybe that’s not the way, maybe this is not the truth.

Yeah, and humility, for me, that’s it. It’s about accepting reality as it is, not trying to make it something else and to feel all your emotions as and when they come up because that’s how you experience life.

Oli Anderson: Yeah. Do you think there’s an element in going from this kind of ego driven state where we, you know, we tried to be a hero or we’ve lapsed into victimhood. We go from that state to humility. And on that journey, we end up facing our shadow self, basically. Like, because acceptance is the final lesson.

Like, ultimately, you can’t become humble without accepting your shadow. And I think that’s why it’s so healing to find humility. Because the main reason people feel unhealed, let’s say, is because of the inner fragmentation. And inner fragmentation just means they’ve disowned loads of parts of themselves or they’re hiding from, like, that shadow understanding, let’s say, of what life is and how it works, who they are within it, and etcetera.

And so by going from, I guess, pride to humility, and even victimhood is pride in a way, because it’s a denial of the truth. It’s in that we’re in control of everything. Like, going through that process, it makes us more whole. And ultimately, I guess that’s what we’re talking about, right? Like, the truth is wholeness. And by aligning ourselves with it, we become more whole as well. And then we don’t need to worry about all of these wild goose chases and, like, these, yeah, crazy things.

Melany Oliver: And it helps you develop compassion as well. So what was coming up for me, when you’re saying that about shadow, you know, one of the reasons, I was depressed, obviously, was because of a lot of my childhood abuse. But I had rage. I had, like, unbelievable amounts of rage that I was suppressing because I did not want to be like my mother. You know, like, Ah. And then I, you know, throughout my, you know, doing inner work and all of that, I had the realisation that I was becoming my mother. And that killed me because that was the last thing I wanted to be, you know, was like my mother. But I realised, shit, I’m becoming. I’m becoming my mother.

Oli Anderson: Yeah.

Melany Oliver: I’m full of rage and my ways, my manipulative ways and things like that. I was just like my mother.

Oli Anderson: Wow.

Melany Oliver: So that was humbling. And I had to accept that and face that within myself and then obviously process and allow myself to feel rage and to be okay with it. not to live in it, but to release it, you know. So that was a huge shadow self of mine because that was my worst nightmare. I was doing everything not to be like her. And then I ended up like her.

Oli Anderson: This is a really common thing. Like, I’ve spoken to quite a few people that have been through that. And, it’s the Carl jung thing again. Right. What you resist persists, and actually, it goes even further. Like, we can almost say, like, what we resist and leave in the shadows, it eventually takes control of us.

Melany Oliver: Absolutely. Yeah. And in ways that you can see, it’s subtle, isn’t it?

Oli Anderson: Yeah. And, like, by you facing it and accepting it, like, it’s not going to go anywhere. This is the thing with all of these real things and these emotions that we try to hide from. They’re real. And what’s real is always really. It’s never gonna go anywhere. And so, actually, the only way to get mastery of it is to. To embrace it, to see that it is there.

So, okay, I’ve got this rage because of, like, this shame of disconnection or whatever it was that caused it. When you own it, that’s when you can decide what to do with it. If you keep hiding from it behind all of the rituals and the things that people do to try a false sense of control, if you keep hiding from it, then you end up giving it power.

This is what people don’t understand. And it’s like, people get so lost, and, Yeah, so just by embracing it and accepting it, you don’t have to get rid of it. I think that’s a common misconception. Like, if we go, if we judge our emotions, anger, is another.

Well, anger is a form of rage. But, like, anger, hatred, rage, whatever it is, as soon as we judge them, we put distance between ourselves and them, and that’s when we lose control of them and they become a problem. So that’s very powerful, what you just shared. I think there’s another issue around trust. So trusting the emotions that are there, but also just learning to trust the process of, moving towards wholeness.

One thing that I think, which I’ve, you know, I’ve pissed quite a few people off around in my lifetime is that things like the rituals people perform and the, you know, things like astrology and tarot cards and all that kind of thing, I personally don’t think you need them in any way, shape or form. Like, I know people that use that stuff and they’re always popping up and trying to convince me that I need it.

But, like, my life has gone really well and I feel like I’ve healed myself because I haven’t had to use those kind of things to find some kind of a controlled connection to the truth. Because the truth is just always there. Like, we can connect to it without the intermediary step of a, ritual of some kind or control. Event. And so I now see that when people are performing those kind of rituals and doing those kind of things, it’s because they can’t trust. Like, it’s a way of putting distance between themselves and the truth in order to get the answers that they want, in order to maintain the ego and to keep avoiding the shadow self, if that makes sense.

Melany Oliver: Yeah, it does. And not even that, it’s. They’re giving their power away because they don’t feel they have power to change.

Oli Anderson: Yeah, yeah, basically that’s the simple, you.

Melany Oliver: Know, and they, on top of that as well, they don’t know how to do the inner work. And like, in your words, you said they can’t connect to themselves and find out the truth that way. So they seek something outside of themselves. And then what you end up doing, which is what I did for, you know, ten years or more, you keep seeking for something outside of yourself and all these tools and techniques, and then just end up feeling more lost and disempowered and confused about what the truth is.

And yeah, I agree with you. I don’t believe now I don’t use any of those tools either. I was super into that as well. But I don’t need that anymore. I can find out the truth by connecting to my heart and tuning into my heart and praying and. And doing it that way, rather than giving my power away to, you know, whatever else is out there.

Oli Anderson: Yeah, yeah. I think, another element of this side of things I’ve noticed is that a lot of it is just projection as well. So a lot of the time, you know, people, people might make, they make some prediction about the future or whatever it is, and they’ll say that it’s because the tarot card said this or like the stars have said that, or there’s some kind of spirit guides or whatever thing it is that they’ve connected, to have told them a certain thing, basically.

But that in most cases, it seems like that is just projection. Like it’s their way of taking their emotional stuff and the desires that the emotions are kind of leading them towards and then repackaging it so they can kind of hear it from something that’s not them, if that makes sense. And again, it comes down to what you said. Like, it’s almost like there’s a… there is a block to hearing the truth from themselves, of course, because that’s what the ego needs to stop people from healing and to keep them in that ego state.

But the projection, it’s almost keeping the truth at arm’s length. And that’s what’s so frustrating to me with these kind of people, is that the truth is there, but it’s just been. It’s been repackaged so that it’s no longer experienced as the truth. Something like that. And I think. Sorry.

Melany Oliver: Like, yeah, I was just going to say it’s spiritual narcissism, isn’t it? In some ways, you know, they’re getting their spiritual egos stroked, and so it makes them feel good, but then nothing changes in their life. Oh, I have so many stories about people like this, which I may not get into here, but anyway, yeah,

Oli Anderson: That term, you know what? You just summed it all up right there. Like, the kind of people I’m talking about. That’s what it is. It’s spiritual narcissism. The thing that nobody. Well, this thing that people rarely say about narcissists is that they feel like shit inside. Like they’re driven by shame. They hate themselves because they’re judging themselves. And they’ve got this inner split.

And obviously, like, I’m, been a bit blasé about it. Like, you should have some compassion for them. But anyway, they. They feel bad, and so they end up doing these kind of things to compensate for the shame. And it’s basically, they’ll do anything except face the truth.

What they end up doing, they create a self-image that allows them to compensate. So they’ll create some image of themselves as being this, you know, majestic healer who has his super holier than thou, all that kind of stuff. Instead of understanding that, like, if they do work as a healer or something, it’s not them that’s actually done anything. They’ve just introduced the truth indirectly into the equation. And it’s the truth that helps people, not them, in their egos. It’s narcissism.

So, this has been very therapeutic for me. Like, allowing myself to, like, say all these things about the things that have been frustrating me. But I suppose to make this practical, how do we bring it back to what you said a few minutes ago? The thing that has helped you has basically been getting in touch with your heart. I think that’s how you described it. And, listening to that directly, because basically, there’s some connection inherently between the heart and the truth. And I’m assuming. Yeah, how do we. How do we basically avoid all the things we’ve been talking about and just keep it very, very simple, which is that all we need is the truth. We can expect it to piss us off, but that’s part of the process and we can trust it.

Melany Oliver: You just said it right there. That’s the key. You have to have a sincere desire for truth. If you don’t have that, you’re screwed. Basically, you have to have a desire for truth. That is the key. And to be humble to it, because, you know, you could think that you have a desire for truth, but when the truth is presented to you, you deny it, but then it just means that you’re not being sincere about the truth.

So there are some key elements, you know, obviously, desire for truth, humility, those are the two main ones. And in terms of healing, when you talk about, like, healing, breaking patterns for me is processing emotions or feeling emotions, that’s also key, because if you’re not willing to feel the emotion, you’re going to be an emotional denial and you’re going to continue to repeat those same patterns. and really, if you have these three things, and I’m sure that there’s more, but let’s just, you know, for the sake of this conversation, like, if, let’s say these are the three key things, really see from your heart that way, because people can present something through marketing and they can talk a good talk.

You know, there’s so many fake spiritual gurus out there, but when you really feel from your heart and see from your heart, you can feel that they’re empty, that, they’re just regurgitating what they read in a self help book or whatever, they haven’t really walked. They’re not walking their talk, you know, that you can feel that they haven’t done the work. And this comes, obviously, like, what I’m sharing now.

Like, the more that you do your inner work, the easier it is to see, right. But if you’re just starting, just having that desire for truth and being humble and really feeling, and being open to feeling emotions, you’ll start to see without having healed, you know, or done years of therapy, if that makes sense.

Oli Anderson: Yeah, it’s amazing. I think, there’s a really important thing as well, just around what you just said. When I think a lot of people get lost because they think that their heart, getting in their heart means feeling your feelings and staying in your feelings. But actually, I think the truth is the thing that allows us to purify our feelings by feeling through them until they dissolve. And I think there’s something there about how ultimately.

Melany Oliver: Yeah. Can I just say something before I forget, because I just came up earlier. And you, cannot process an emotion if you’re not in truth.

Oli Anderson: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Melany Oliver: And people that live in their… In certain emotions, for example, you know, take me as an example. When I was talking about my depression, I wasn’t in truths.

Oli Anderson: Yeah.

Melany Oliver: So if you can understand that if you’re stuck in an emotion, you’re not in truth, you’re in denial about something there. Yeah.

Oli Anderson: Yeah, yeah, exactly that. And I think that’s kind of what I was alluding to. So a lot of the time, people, a lot of these people, they talk about their emotions and their heart and all that kind of stuff, but they get stuck in the emotion because of the way that they’re identifying with it.

But the truth is constantly moving towards acceptance, it’s constantly moving towards wholeness, or it’s constantly calling us towards those things. And, that means that the emotions will pass eventually. It’s that whole thing, right?

Emotions are energy in motion. If they’re not moving, then something needs to change. And I think that’s one of these things, like we were saying about low retraction, where you can get feedback from the results you’re getting about whether or not you’re actually in the truth or whether you’re kind of fooling yourself. So this has been awesome. This has been therapeutic for me.

Melany Oliver: I’ve loved it.

Oli Anderson: I appreciate you so much. Have you got any final words? Like, I know you kind of just did some up, but if you want to sum up. And also, can you let people know where they can find you as well?

Melany Oliver: Sure. Yeah. And ultimately, this is the path, like you said, like we both talked about throughout, is to live in truth. And the only way to do that is by doing, you know, this type of inner work, to accept the truth, to feel your emotions. And, Yeah, because this is. This is the path so that we can be our true selves in the world, you know, and live true to ourselves and follow our hearts and our passions and desires. I think that’s what we’re here for. so, yeah, if more people could have the courage to do that, we would have a happier world, I think.

Oli Anderson: Yeah, 100%. And it’s so simple. Like, it’s simple. We make it more good than it needs to. That’s all kind of worlds. Can you let people know where they can find you if those dogs don’t eat you?

Melany Oliver: Yeah, I honestly don’t know what it is. We must have made some spirits angry.

Oli Anderson: We’ll see that as well. What’s happened. But anyway, yes. What’s your website?

Melany Oliver: So it’s just my name. Melany with a y dash oliver.com (melany-oliver.com). And it’s my, Instagram. It’s Melany Oliver. The same with my Facebook, my TikTok, LinkedIn, if you prefer that as well.

Oli Anderson: So, yeah, awesome. Well, I’ll share all that stuff in the show notes. Melany, thank you so much for this one.

Melany Oliver: Thank you. I’ve really enjoyed this.

Oli Anderson: Thank you.

Trusting the Seasons of Life & Balanced Intuition (Creative Status: Episode 81: Raman Hari)

Creative Status is a podcast about using creativity as a vehicle for improving your life by deconstructing ego, integrating the shadow self, and designing and manifesting a real life.

Every episode explores how the creative process can help you GROW REAL by moving towards wholeness in yourself by making the unconscious conscious.

In this transformative episode of Creative Status, we embark on a journey through the seasons of trust with Raman Hari, an intuitive coach with a passion for guiding individuals to embrace their inner power and purpose.

Trust as a Cornerstone: Dive into the essence of trust and its critical role in our lives. We discuss how trust is the foundation for letting go of fear, living without constraints, and allowing intuition to guide us towards our true potential.

Seasons of the Self: Raman shares her wisdom on navigating life’s seasons – from the winters of introspection to the summers of action. We explore how aligning with these natural rhythms can lead to a deeper sense of peace and fulfillment.

The Dance of Yin and Yang: Engage with the delicate balance between the masculine and feminine energies within us. Learn how embracing both can lead to a harmonious existence, where intention meets flow and action coexists with surrender.

Integrating the Shadow: Uncover the transformative power of facing our shadows, as each season reveals aspects of ourselves that we’ve hidden away. This process of reintegration leads us back to a state of wholeness and intrinsic trust.

Creative Status: Where Trust Unfolds Realness

Join us in this heartfelt conversation that weaves together the threads of trust, balance, and self-acceptance, as we learn to honor the season we’re in and trust the process of returning to our authentic selves.

Stay real out there,

Oli Anderson

(www.olianderson.co.uk)

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Trusting The Seasons of Life & Balanced Intuition (Show Transcript)

Intro

Oli Anderson: Oh, hi there. Oli Anderson here. You’re listening to Creative Status. It’s a podcast about using the creative process as a vehicle for growing more real. If you’re new to the podcast, welcome. If you return into the podcast, thank you so much. And, it’s nice to spend some time with you virtually again.

Here on Creative Status, we like to explore life itself, the human condition, some of the universal truths that we can accept and live with in order to move towards wholeness, a sense of connection to ourselves, connection to others, connection to life, allow our purpose to reveal itself and so we can flow instead of force things.

Today’s interview is with Raman Hari. Raman is an intuitive coach and for that reason we talk about all kinds of issues related to intuition. But we mainly focus on one of my favourite topics in the world, which is trust. If you don’t know, trust comes up a lot on this podcast because ultimately, when you break everything down to the building blocks of the human experience, trust is the thing that is the, biggest game changer. If we can trust, we can let go.

If we can trust, we can live without fear. If we can trust, we can allow our intuition to tell us where we need to go sometimes. If we can trust, we can basically just relax into being what we need to be. And so all of the other virtues like patience and things like that, ultimately stem down to our capacity to trust. So anyway, we talk a lot about trust, we talk about balance, we talk about yin and yang. It’s a great interview.

So Raman, thank you so much for your time. There is a slight glitch on the audio, so I apologise for that. That’s the recording platform I was using, so I’m not going to be using that anymore. but either way, this is an awesome interview, Raman, thank you for your time. Once again, everybody else, hope this helps you to, go deeper into trust, go deeper into realness, and to live the life you want to live. Here we go. Thanks a bunch. Boom.

Interview

Oli Anderson: Oh, hi there, Raman. Thank you so much for joining me on today’s episode of creative status. We’re going to be talking about probably my favourite topic in the world or something that I seem to be obsessed with, at least throughout all of these podcast episodes recently, which is trust. Before we get into it, do you feel like introducing yourself, telling, people what you do, what you’re all about, and also what you want to get out of this conversation that we’re about to have?

Raman Hari: Ooh, I love it. Yes. Thank you. For having me on, Oli? Yeah. My name’s Raman. I work as an intuitive coach and really been leaning into trust a lot lately. I help people with, really into their intuition and into that spirit that is within them, so that they can really step into their power and their potential and their purpose.

So lots of really fun stuff. I am, super excited to have this conversation. I feel like there’s so much that we can talk about in terms of trust and kind of what stops us from feeling that peace in our life. So, yeah, really excited to be here with you.

Oli Anderson: That’s awesome. And I love how you just linked trust with peace. I think when I really reflect on this idea now of, like, just trusting life, that’s ultimately what it boils down to, like, peace. If we can learn to trust, and I think learn is the key word, because it’s kind of, it’s basically like a muscle that we can stretch, is what I found, then we can kind of flow a lot easier and we don’t have fear holding us back and all that kind of stuff, because I now believe that fear is the opposite of trust.

And, we can just feel a sense of kind of inner peace, if you want to call it up. So before we get too deep into it, I suppose let’s just start with, like, your experience, if that’s cool. Like, what is, what is it about trust that’s got you riding this kind of wave that I’m getting excited about as well? Like, recently, it sounds like you’ve kind of tuned into it as well or something.

Raman Hari: For sure. So I think a lot of people are looking for more peace nowadays. something happened with 2020 pandemic COVID, all that, where it feels like more people are feeling almost more distrusting of life and more irritable or anxious or it’s. Something happened there. And so I think people are looking for that trust more than now, more than ever.

But for me, it really started when I was born, but I was very young when I started to experience a lot of social anxiety. And I just had a lot of anxiety in general. And, for me, I find that the opposite of anxiety is peace. And that peace really comes from trusting and trusting in life. And, one of my favourite things that I ever heard that I carry with me all the time is, I don’t know if you saw that Steve Jobs commencement speech at one of those Ivy League colleges. but he talked about trust and how, you know, when we look forward in life, we can’t actually connect the dots of what’s going to happen and what’s going to lead you to that next thing or that next career or that next person or whatever it is.

But it’s only when we look back that we can connect those dots. And so what he talked about was how, we have to trust that one day we’re going to look back and the dogs will connect because they actually will and they already have. If you look back in your life, like, whoever is listening to this, maybe you’re 15 or you’re 20.

Either way, you’ve lived some time on this planet where you can look back and connect some dots on how things worked out in a way that you could not imagine. So, that’s something that I think about often is Steve Jobs, man, he really knew what he was talking about. I loved it.

Oli Anderson: Yeah, yeah, that’s so true. Like, one of the ways that I’ve kind of taught myself to trust in what’s coming, at least, is to look back in exactly the way you said and to realise that a lot of the, you know, the bad in scare quote things that I’ve been through sucked at the time. But now that, now that I’m further down the line, I’ve really kind of just learned to see that, like, they were a blessing.

 I, like, I didn’t realise that when I was going through it because like, obviously my ego was getting in the way and like, I was resisting life and where it was taking me and like, all the illusions I had to let go of and all that kind of stuff. But in retrospect, it’s exactly like you said. You always see that the dots lined up and everything is always just happening in the best possible way.

And I suppose you could say, you know, that’s just, some kind of cognitive bias. Like, we look back and we’ve put everything in a narrative and we try and just make everything make sense. But, like, it really seems to me that, like everything is happening in a way that is allowing us to just become more real. That’s what I call it, right?

Like, whatever we go through is making us more connected to wholeness. And if you just take that as a basic premise of life and being a human being, then everything that happens, good and, bad, is just all part of this overarching process of going deeper into life. Something like that. And if that is the case, which it seems to be to me anyway, then we can just trust at all times. Even if bad things do arise in the future, we know that eventually we’re either going to die so we won’t have any problems or, like, something will emerge out of that, probably. So am, I being too idealistic or is that how you’ve kind of experienced it as well?

Raman Hari: Here’s the thing. You can look back and yes, you can tear apart your life and only focus on the negative. And we all know that all that does is it releases cortisol in our body. It causes havoc and disease and illness. And so I think there’s something really powerful about that.

Just realising when we do look at the positive of what’s come out of our life without negating, like, the hard times and not, you know, obviously feeling our emotions and whatever is happening. but when we really focus on that positive, it genuinely changes our physical body, changes what’s going on chemically and, you know, in our biology. That’s incredible. Right. So I think there’s something really powerful to be said about that. It’s like our bodies almost nudging us in a way. We can smile that the more we can actually look back at the positive, the healthier we can be. So really thing that I about often.

Oli Anderson: Yeah, that’s really interesting. So maybe I’m opening a can of worms over one of the ways that I’ve. I think I’ve got better at trusting. And basically for me now, trusting is just letting go of that need to control things that you can’t control and trying to force life according to some plan that you’ve come up with in order to kind of, I suppose avoid that fear. It’s almost like a self-perpetuating kind of thing.

But anyway, one of the ways I think that I’ve been able to kind of do that is by really like, helping my nervous system to become regulated by doing things like yoga and meditation and all that kind of thing. And normally when we’re talking about those things, we think, okay, it’s like a, it’s a nice mental workout. We can, you know, just learn to relax and all that kind of stuff. But I think it’s exactly like you just said as well.

Like, it helps our biological systems to be better equipped to be able to deal with life and the uncertainty of moving forward in the way that Steve Jobs was talking about, where we don’t know, what’s coming and what dots are going to connect or even if they are going to connect. And so ultimately, if our nervous system is healthy, you’re as healthy as possible. We have a stronger foundation for being able to trust with our mental attitudes and all that kind of stuff. So I don’t know if there’s anything there that’s, you know, relevant to the thing that your work, that you do.

Raman Hari: So relevant. I love doing my yoga stretches every morning. That puts me in a good set for the day. but something I think about often is the fact that we’ve been giving this. We’ve been given this free tool. It’s free 99 and it’s called our breath. We have our breath all the time. and obviously there is something there.

There is something powerful there that we’ve been given. And so it’s not that we don’t have sources, it’s just we’re being resourceful enough and realising that we have everything right here. And so, yeah, I mean, I love yoga. I love really breathing and getting still going out into nature. Those are some of my favourite things. And one thing that I always like to come back to is play.

Like actually having fun in life, I think we get so damn serious about everything. Like you said, we’re all going to die and we are on a rock floating throughout our space. And so it is important to see that, you know, we don’t have to be so serious. And, you know, in the beginning of my coaching work, I did a lot of inner child healing with my clients. And what I found was, yes, let’s acknowledge the inner child.

Let’s acknowledge the stuff that we’ve suppressed. Let’s acknowledge the fact that when we were young, someone told us that he wasn’t worth anything. And so now we’ve suppressed this creative part of ourselves and whatever, let’s acknowledge all that stuff. But at the same time, the inner child, what that inner child wants more than anything is to play and to be free and to have fun. And so going into that is also so healthy for our nervous system. And I think that’s something we don’t talk about enough.

Oli Anderson: Yeah. Yeah. Do you think the play thing is linked to trust as well? Because ultimately, I think when we’re trusting, we’re kind of living in a. We’re living in a way where we’ve been spontaneous, so we’re not holding back because of all that social conditioning or because of self-doubt and all the emotional baggage that we’ve picked up over the years.

We’re just acting in a spontaneous way, but we’re also kind of controlling that spontaneity because we have a kind of vision for where we’re trying to get. And if we can play within that kind of space, then in a way, we’re going to be more trusting as well, because I suppose the opposite of play is that seriousness, which really is just fear, ultimately. And if fear is the opposite of trust, then play, maybe, is a way to start cultivating this kind of trust muscle that we keep talking about.

Raman Hari: Yes, absolutely. I think it’s all so linked and interconnected. And, again, when we focus on only the difficult things, we forget that life, for the most part, is not made up of difficult things. Like, right now, we’re sitting here. Anyone who’s listening, we’re safe, right? Like, you. You are so safe. And, and life is happening, and. And the stuff that’s hard, like that comes, too, but that’s, like, 0.01% of life. Like, the actual really hard moments or those moments where you might actually feel unsafe.

And so really tuning into that is really big. But you’re right. Like, you really hit the nail on the head with the play and the trust being so interconnected. I’ve actually, I haven’t thought of it that way. but I think, you know, there is something to be said as well for planning, and I love planning. I love envisioning my future and setting goals, and I think that’s a beautiful thing. And it’s not that we completely let that go, but because it provides some structure. And honestly, if I didn’t have an idea of what I’m doing tomorrow, like, that doesn’t seem fun to me. I do like to have some fun things in store.

But it’s trusting, I think, is also allowing yourself to make those plans and trusting that if those plans don’t work out, it’s all right. And the right time to trust is always right. Like, what’s gonna be is going to be, and we don’t have to force anything. But, yeah, make the dang plans. I have plans this weekend. I have some fun plans coming up. but if those get derailed, it’s not gonna end my life. Do you know what I mean?

Oli Anderson: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. I think this is a really important thing that you brought up. Like, ultimately, it’s about. About finding balance. And so the way that I like to think of it, when I’m thinking about the trust thing, there’s two different kinds of trust. There’s trusting ourselves, and then there’s trusting life, and we need both. Trusting ourselves just means that we do what we can do.

Like, we have to take action. And I think, you know, I’m happy that you brought that up, because sometimes when we talk about trusting the universe or trusting God, and all this stuff, we act like we don’t have to act like we don’t have to do anything. But actually, it’s still incumbent upon us to make plans and to decide what we want and to figure out where we go in to have a vision and all that kind of stuff. But then the next level, besides just trusting ourselves to be able to handle what ah happens and to do what we’re responsible for doing is to trust life when it gets to that point where we’ve done our best and it’s time to forget the rest, basically.

And I think that’s the, that’s the sweet spot. Knowing when we have to let go of our abilities, let’s say, to be able to control things or to force things and to know when to stop. It’s kind of like, do you know the Taoist concept of what it basically is? The Taoist concept of Wu Wei? Effortless action.

So you like doing things, but with, you’re doing things without doing things sometimes. Because sometimes the best action is to do nothing and to wait for a new opportunity to arise or to wait for something to change or whatever it is. And I think if we can learn to trust ourselves, to be able to let go, then we can put ourselves in that space, and that’s when we can actually do both. We can make plans, but we’re not so attached to the plans that they take us out of the flow or they take us out of reality itself.

Raman Hari: Oh, my gosh. Yes, yes, yes, yes. That balance is just beautiful. And I think you’re really touching on this balance of masculine and feminine as well, because the masculine is the envisioning, the goal setting, and the fun. And I think it’s so interesting how we do this as a society, but I think for so long, everything was very masculine, and now I think we’re all, we’ve swung the pendulum all the way to the other side where we’re like, oh, no, no, no.

Now we’re gonna go all feminine. And, and I think we do this a lot in society, in general. Like, you’ll constantly seeing, you’re constantly seeing the pendulum swaying from one side to the other. But it’s like, like you said, there is this middle way of that balance. And, the masculine is more of the envisioning, and the feminine is more of the flow and also just being, And those are energy states, and those are. And those are ways of showing up. It’s not necessarily, male female kind of a thing, but it’s the state of, how we show up. And I love that.

Cause that balance is so key. I find that if I’m too in the feminine and I’m like, flow, flow, flow. And I don’t make any plans, then I’m kind of like, what is my future? What am I doing here? And if I’m too in the masculine, then usually I’m a little too rigid.

Oli Anderson: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, this is. I think we need both, though. Like, whether we’re in, whether we’re male or female, we need to find the perfect balance for us of yin and yang or masculine and feminine. So, if we’re only in, in yang energy, only in masculine energy, that’s when we just forced life all the time. So we’re constantly on the grind, we’re constantly pushing. Basically, we’re asserting ourselves on life constantly.

And if we constantly assert ourselves on life and force ourselves on life, then we’re going to stress ourselves out. Basically. We’re going to cause friction, frustration, and then misery and depression, because we can’t force life completely. That’s neurotic. It’s the illusion that we’re omnipotent and that we do have total control over life. But on the other side of the coin, if we too feminine, if we’re just yin all the time and we’re just like, well, I’m just going to let go completely.

And I’m not going to decide anything for myself and use all my human volition and capacity to make decisions and choices and take responsibility for my life and blah, blah, blah. Then we become so open minded that our brains fall out. And in both of those cases, whether we go to the extremities of, yin or the extremities of yang, we end up distancing ourselves from life itself because we had been so reactionary that we can’t respond. And so I’m really starting to think of this now. There’s kind of a zero point.

And I think the way into it for men and women may be slightly different. Like, obviously, I’m a guy, so I can only talk from my experience. But for me, I’m generally quite a young person. So I’m very disciplined. And I’ve got loads of, habits that I try to do every day. And I normally know what I’m doing when, and I can. If I say I’m gonna do something, I’ll do it basically.

And then I’ll push through until I get the results that I want. That’s very young. But obviously, if I push through too much, then I’m gonna end up falling into that trap. I just talked about where I’m forcing life. And so for me, I’ve found that I can really stay in a consistent flow state by kind of pushing and having some tension, but then releasing. It’s like tension release, tension release, tension release, if that makes sense.

And if you can live like that, then you can flow more. So I feel like I’m in the flow state quite a lot by pushing, but then letting go, if that makes sense. And I don’t know if it’s different for somebody who’s more feminine, predominantly more yin. Like, if they have to be like really open and flowy, but then sometimes they have to add a bit of yang energy to kind of get into that zero point. And I think the end result is the same. We’re all moving in the same direction, which is just wholeness and that balance. But I think the paths into him might be a little bit different. So that’s just me throwing out some completely random theory. I don’t know what you think about.

Raman Hari: It, but I love it. That made sense. I mean, I feel like it’s. It. I feel like everyone’s a little bit different, and I think that zero point that you talk about is going to be a little bit different for everyone. And, Yeah, I mean, I grew up very masculine. I’ve been working since I was twelve. Don’t ask where I was working when I was twelve. I was just like busting tables at a restaurant in the summer.

But, yeah, no, it’s just I feel like I grew up very masculine and I still, to this day, have to remind myself that, all right, okay, yeah, I can be more soft and I can be more playful and have more fun, and that is such a valuable energy to have. And I think, it just depends on who you are and maybe you grew up more feminine and you want to feel into more of like, wow, how would it feel like to actually be a little more assertive here or, you know, speak up for myself or, any of that? So I think it really depends.

And some people might feel called to be super in their feminine in this lifetime, but, for me, I just, I love a little middle ground of bone. I’m like, I like the spiciness of the masculine, and I like the softness of the feminine. Like, I like a little sweet and salty, you know what I mean? Post. So, yeah.

Oli Anderson: Yeah.

Raman Hari: Depends on the person.

Oli Anderson: Yeah, I suppose it depends what we want as well. So, like, it’s hard to explain I suppose, but, like, if we, if we’ve decided that we have, like, a vision, for where we’re going in life, like, say we want to create a new business or we want to, I don’t know, write a book or do something that is going to involve consistent effort over time and kind of navigating cause and effect to be able to reach the point where we’ve achieved whatever it is that we’re trying to achieve, then we’re gonna have to bring in some kind of yang energy, some kind of masculine energy.

Because ultimately, you know, and, I mean, m for people who, you know, think I’m being misogynistic or whatever, I know all I mean by, you know, yang energy, masculine energy is like this yin Yang definition of just forcing life to some extent to get where you’re going. But then if we, if we only force in that way, then we’re basically gonna go mad, like I was saying. And so it is about finding that balance.

But ultimately, what I’m saying is, like, if we. If we want to achieve something, then we’re gonna have to bring in the yang energy. But I think the Wu wei thing, the effortless action is bringing in that, I guess, balance, our feminine balance, so we don’t become so attached to what we want that we lose sight of ourselves and we lose sight of life. Something like that.

And so I suppose what I’m trying…And what I’m trying to figure out, I guess, is like, how. How do we stay in that state without losing a perspective, I guess, like a real perspective of what it means to, like, be authentic. Because, you know, all this talk of masculine feminine, like, we can put them on as like, masks or whatever, but how do we find that. That true? Balance, I guess, is what I’m trying to figure out. And I don’t have any answers. And I might just be, you know, making things up.

Raman Hari: Totally. I mean, I. First of all, I love that you mentioned attachment and, this feeling of, like, taking action and not being so attached. I think that’s such a key thing to feel into. now, balance is a funny thing because sometimes I’m like, yes, okay, I understand balance. But then other times, I feel like balance doesn’t really fully exist.

Like, you can’t always be full balance all the time. So for me, I feel like we go through different seasons and, maybe you’re in a season where you are more in the, you know, I don’t really know what’s next for my life. And I don’t have that vision right now. And so I am more in that like receptive mode. I’m just feeling into what feels good, what I’m curious about, maybe more in that energy. And so I think it depends on the season. And for me, like this past winter, like I’d say like December, I was in a very feminine, like I was healing some, like physical stuff.

And so for me it was all about, okay, like right now this is a season I’m in and I’m accepting that and I’m going to celebrate that. This is where I am. And you know, maybe I’m grieving a little bit of that, like, oh, shit. Like I kind of want to get shit done, you know, energy. and so, but really celebrating what season you’re in. And so I think some seasons, some seasons I’m very masculine and that’s just what that season is requiring from me. And so I think really tuning into that, not always going to be 100% just like how in relationships if you feel like one day you, you’re bringing 100%, of your energy and you’re like, yeah, like, ah, I can do everything. And then the next day you might feel like, oh, babe, like, I’m gonna need you today because I’m me. So I think it depends.

Oli Anderson: Yeah, yeah, that’s a very important point. And it’s so true. Like it comes in, it comes in cycles and waves. I guess it’s like tension and then release. So, like if we get into this, say we have a season where we’ve been very young and we’re just kind of going at it basically we’re just grinding and, you know, pushing towards our vision or whatever. Eventually we’re going to burn out because you can’t stay in that state forever.

You’ll literally just kind of run out of energy and then stress yourself out and die. And so, you get to a point, I guess, where you’re like, right, I need to go to the other side of the spectrum and get some of this, yin energy and kind of just relax, wind down. And then during that period of been in the yin, then you’re probably going to get some inspiration about what your next moves need to be and your intuition is going to be doing whatever it needs to do beneath the surface.

And then when the time is right, you’re going to go out there and be more young again until maybe that’s another way of looking at this zero point. Because the way I was looking at the start of the conversation is if you design your life in the right way, you can kind of maximise the amount of time that you spend in the flow state of the zero point, as we’re calling it. But actually, another approach is probably healthier as well, is the one you just said where, okay, basically you trust your body and your mind and your emotions to tell you what you need, and then you kind of let go of the ideas that may be taking you away from that, if that makes sense.

So, for example, if you’re in a very young place and you’re just forcing things and blah, blah, blah, you might get to that point where you do need a break, but you’re so attached to the idea of, like, moving towards that vision that you don’t take a break and then you burn out. And so maybe there’s something there on the trust thing, which is just super simple, just learning to trust ourselves, to be able to tell what kind of energy we need to go into, if that makes sense.

Raman Hari: Absolutely. I think that’s. I love that we’ve brought it full circle back to the trust. and, you know, the truth is, the reason I talk about intuition so much and trust and more of, like, these are more feminine concepts, right. Intuition and trust. The reason I talk about that stuff so much is because of the season that I’m in and how, you know, a lot of my life, I feel in, like I said. And so for me, these topics are things I hold close so I can remember over and over again. Right.

But for someone else, maybe they grew up very feminine and they never take action. And so, you know, they might be learning more about that masculine and, like, oh, right, I am allowed to take action and I. And it is going to be hard. And like you said, and there’s, you know, I, I heard something recently where someone said, you know, when you have intention, the word tensions in it, and so you can have intention, but to move forward, there’s tension. And so I really, I’ve been feeling into that as well lately.

Just this feeling of, it’s so fun to dream, you know, and be in that really receptive, excited, curious state. and then taking the action does. It takes a bit. It’s uncomfortable. So, yeah, I don’t know if I answered the question at all, but I kind of went off there. I do that sometimes. but, yeah, I think, like you said.

Yeah, we’re going up and down and I just, I always go back to the seasons and how, you know, I’m sure in the springtime, I don’t know all of the, you know, the physics, the, like, the nature of it, but if you look out into nature, this, you know, cherry blossoms are blooming in the spring.

There’s so much happening, so much happening. Things are coming back to life and I’m sure it’s taking a certain amount of energy for all that to happen. Now in the fall, everything’s just releasing and it’s letting go. And so nature is constantly showing us these cycles of, intention, planting seeds, right. They grow in however long. Right. It’s just so beautiful. It’s already out there in nature. Nature as well. trusting in our own nature, I think, is huge, like you said.

Oli Anderson: Do you think, like, sometimes we might be in a certain season, but we don’t realise it because of the attachment stuff that we were talking about. And maybe, you know, maybe about to go through a winter or whatever, but we’re still identifying as somebody who’s in summer or whatever it is, and that ultimately ends up causing a kind of friction for us. And I guess what I’m saying is, like, sometimes, because we fear to face reality and the season that we’re actually in, in life, because we’re scared to let go of, as the seasons change or whatever it is, we end up putting ourselves in the wrong energetic state, if that makes sense.

And I suppose the question for you is, like, how do we. How do we know when a season’s over? And, how do we know if we’re just attached to the idea of a season versus actually moving with the seasons as they change? Do you know what I mean?

Raman Hari: Yeah, that, that. I get that. I think if you feel like you’re actually flowing with the seasons, you’ll feel that in human body, that’s a peaceful, peaceful state to be in. Now, if you feel like there is tension and there is this frustration and you feel burnt out and you feel like maybe you’re distracting yourself all the time and now you’re like, on Netflix for 16 hours and you didn’t realise and it keeps telling you, like, are you sure you want to continue watching? And you keep watching and you’re like, I don’t like. You know what I mean?

It’s, you know when you’re not, like, feeling fulfilled at, peace. And sometimes we don’t know until, like, we know, like maybe someone’s listening to this podcast and they’re realising, oh, shoot, like, I’ve really been forcing something that doesn’t, that doesn’t feel right. And so I think having these sort of resources is so helpful, even for myself, because sometimes I’ll find myself forcing something and then I hear something and I see something or I intuitively feel something and that’s when we shift.

So, I’m grateful for podcasts like these because this is what keeps us reminded of that. And I also. I feel like a lot of the time we do this thing where we compare our winter to someone else who’s having a summer. And that is just going to create so much, just so much. What’s the word?

It’s like it’s not peaceful at all. It’s going to create so much tension and havoc within because it’s like someone is in Australia right now and they are experiencing a different season. And I’m like trying so hard to change happening. And so it’s. We do that a lot where we compare and, you know, I think sometimes we just gotta get off our dang phones, set our butt down and. And look at the season that we’re. Action. Yeah. just get real with ourselves.

Oli Anderson: Yeah. Wow. Well, I think ultimately we’re all on the same path, which is like a path that is naturally unfolding and it’s just taken us all towards wholeness. That’s how I see it. Right. So the abridged version of that, which I’ve said 6000 billion times on this podcast, is like in childhood, something happens. It basically causes to become, split or divided within ourselves because of shame, guilt and trauma.

Then we create the ego version of ourselves. And so we put that into the world and we’re just living this fragmented life as an idea rather than as an experience a lot of the time. And then the journey for most of us, for the rest of our lives, is to undo that conditioning and to return to realness so that we can start flowing with wholeness and all the kind of things that we’re talking about. The way that that works is that it’s going to take us through these natural cycles of just removing layers of fragmentation. So we become a bit more real and then a bit more real and then a bit more real again.

And ultimately that means going through these seasons like you’re talking about. But the only way we can go through the seasons is to actually accept the season that we’re in. And I think one trap that we can fall into in relation with all this stuff that we’re talking about is that some seasons seem more attractive than others. Like we think, okay, if I could just stay in the summer of my life and you know, I’m just gonna be flowing and in this yin energy and having a free flowing wonderful time all the time.

Then I can just kind of surrender to life and I don’t have to make any decisions for myself or whatever it is. And then it becomes a, it becomes a trap literally. Because the more we try and cling to the identity that’s keeping us in that season, the more we block that flow and the cycles. And so exactly like you said, like I might be in summer, you might be in winter, like somebody else is in autumn or spring. It’s a very personal thing. And so that’s why we have to, it comes back to trust again because we have to trust that the season we’re in and we’re going through is the best season for us.

And we also have to know when to let go of it because it’s always going to change. And like maybe, you know, as with life itself you’re going to get more than one summer. But I suppose as you get older and wiser you, you can appreciate it more or something. But the point I’m making is it’s really about acceptance ultimately. Like you said, you have to accept the season you’re in and then trust it to teach you what it’s going to teach you so you can go into the next one. And so it really does all come full circle with the trust thing, I think.

Raman Hari: Oh, exactly, exactly. You nailed it. And you know, with the really accepting the season you’re in also just recognising that every single season is nourishing you. Every single season. Like sometimes we think all winter, you know, it’s so dead and dry and whatever, but I mean, I live on an island and it rains all winter and let, me tell you, it could get real gloomy and a little depressing at times. But we’re like, we’re also so aware that that’s nourishing the island and like all the green that we have to look forward to is because of that winter, because of that gloom.

And so, and I think we have such fundamental beliefs about what is, good and bad and so we automatically think if I don’t feel good that’s like a bad thing. Or if I feel, you know. Yeah, like, like I said, if I feel bad then that’s a bad thing. But, the truth is that our emotions are just happening and if we can really allow them to just flow through us and know that they’re all nourishing us in some way, I think it would really help. It’s. It’s not like, you know, I’m sad today and therefore I am not valuable or something.

I think we have these ideas just because of, you know, if you want to be in the workforce and, like, be a productive citizen, like, if someone asks you how you are, you say you’re good, right? So we have these ideas of, oh, oh, shoot. Like, I’m not allowed to be a little sad right now, or I’m not allowed to feel a bit lost, or I’m not allowed. And so just giving yourself that permission to feel anything in all of it and embrace that because it’s nourishing us, that’s a part of the human experience.

Oli Anderson: This is a bit of a curveball. but do you think different seasons end up revealing the shadows of part of the process of going through these seasons and letting things fall away and learning to let go or to release certain emotional things or to integrate things we’ve been hiding?

Ultimately, as we go through the cycles of the seasons and learn whether or not to be in yin or yang, depending on who we are and the context of our lives at the time, all we’re really doing is just learning to be more real, which means that we’re removing the barriers, basically, to accepting life. And if in the way that we said and if we go through those cycles, then ultimately our identity is going to be way less rigid and it’s going to be pointing us in the direction of, like, the truth more than anything, I suppose.

And by going through those cycles, sorry to be repetitive, we’re basically bringing the shadow self to the surface because the identity was holding us back from facing. That is. Seems to be unreal. I know I’m being very kind of random, but does that make any sense?

Raman Hari: That does make sense. And I think, a really important part of our evolution is going through that and going through the uprising or the uncovering of those shadows. And so, yeah, you might be going through a season where you feel like, man, I feel blocked. What is this? Let me sit with this. And then, you know, you might, you know, have this, you know, these breakthroughs and revelations about how, oh, shoot, like, I’m not living. I’m not living.

You know, I’m not, going forward in the way that I always saw myself going or whatever it is. And I. God, I just. I keep thinking of this quote, which I wish I could quote, but I’m gonna butcher it. And it’s something like, I forgot who even said it, but they said something like, I’m starting to feel like the second half of life is letting go of all the things I feverishly collected in the first half.

And that letting go process is not easy. And, God, I mean, you were talking fragmentation. He was talking splitting of our internal self. And I, think that that is kind of what’s happening for a lot of our, you know, the first part of our life. And I think a part of the growth is, like you said, coming back to those parts of us. Re looking at those parts relearning and. Yeah, like getting real, like getting to, who we are. So I think that’s a beautiful, beautiful thing. And I’m glad you brought that up because it’s not all sunshine and roses all the time. All those parts do come up. Yeah, yeah.

Oli Anderson: But then the other thing there is like, it does take us totally full circle in a way, and it brings together a lot of the themes that we’ve kind of jumped over in this conversation. So when we integrate the shadow and we step away from the false identity and the split fragmentation that we’ve been identifying with up until that point, not only do we reintegrate all the parts of ourselves that we disowned because of the conditioning and the emotional stuff that we went through, we reconnect to the playfulness and all of the qualities, the spontaneity, etcetera, and the trust that were our birthright.

Anyway, I think, like, I think we’re all born actually very trusting. Like, part of, you know, developmental psychology is that we, we have to be able to trust our parents to meet our needs and things like that. And one of the reasons people get so screwed up is because that doesn’t always happen. And then they, you know, they don’t trust life and they become fragmented and etcetera, but that trust is always there. It never goes anywhere.

And so as we go through these cycles and through these seasons, the lesson ultimately, if. If we’re successful, and I don’t mean, you know, successful in schedules, but if we can go through those cycles and return to wholeness, then we return to trust as well. That’s really how I experienced it, I guess. And it’s not like we have to, Like trust is a muscle in the sense that we have to train ourselves to go against our conditioning. But really all we’re doing is just returning to where we were supposed to be all along.

And I think that’s ultimately what we’re kind of talking about, like trusting the process of getting back to trust something like that. And so we’ve throw. I’ve thrown a lot of random things at you in this conversation, and I do normally ramble on this podcast, but I’ve rambled more than usual. But, like, how would you sum all this up?

Because we kind of have gone full circle and there is, like, a theme that’s kind of emerging here. And, luckily for me, I’m going to put the onus on you to kind of summarise, that, if that’s even possible. So, if. How would you sum all this up, basically? Like, what is the main lesson of this conversation we just had? And, can you let people know where they can find you as well, like your website and stuff?

Raman Hari: Absolutely. Yeah. So everything that you just said, it reminded me of a quote that I once saw. And the quote goes something like this. The healed inner child is the God within. And when we can come back to who m that child is, who is trusting, then we can feel into that essence that has always been there. And like you said, we’re just unlayering. We’re looking at what it is that got split, in our personality, growing up. So the healed child is the God within us.

And so, to sum up this conversation, I mean, that quote, really, that quote. but also, trust. It’s always a good time for trust. and, God, what else do I wanna say? How do I end this? Wow. It’s been a fantastic conversation. I, think one thing I would like to leave with everyone is that all of this healing that we’re talking about, all of the stuff we talked about, it always comes back to love. And so, you know, whatever you’re doing, wherever you’re going in life, really, like, have compassion for yourself. You’re a human on this earth. Have compassion. Come back to love.

In terms of where people can find me: Ramanhari.com. That’s my website. You can see my offerings. Everything that I do is on there. And if you want to find me on Instagram, come say hi. It’s @ramanhari3. And those places can, get you to wherever you want to go, otherwise. But, yeah, those are the two main places. So thank you so much for having me on. This has been, seriously, so much fun.

Oli Anderson: Yeah. Thank you so much, honestly. And I’ll share all your links and everything in the. In the show notes. And, yeah, just. Thanks. Like, I really appreciate energy. It’s been awesome.


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